Powered by www.runningwithpower.com, RunPowerModel is your power meter for running or hiking activities, in the form of a data field which integrates seamlessly into your existing activity profiles! It can be used as a wrist-only power meter, or in combination with a RunningDynamics device (Garmin's run pod, HRM Pro/Tri/Run belts...) for more accurate results.</p><p></p><p>RunPowerModel is not only designed for those who like to run on the streets but especially also for trail runners. The algorithm behind RunPowerModel corresponds to a self-developed semi-analytical physical model. This means that the components behind the final power number are all physically motivated, but some of its parameters are adjusted to yield reasonable results. It was designed and tested to work under and automatically adapt to various conditions, including uphills and downhills of arbitrary inclination as well as technical trails. For runners who also cycle and know their corresponding power output, the values calculated by RunPowerModel are directly comparable to that.</p>
2.5.1:</p><p>- Added support for new watch models (FR 965 & 265...)</p><p></p><p>2.5.0:</p><p>- Improved trail-power calculation. CAUTION: Trail score values are now generally higher!</p><p>- Added Equivalent Flat Pace (EFP) to the list of displayable values (only for devices with sufficient memory)</p><p>- Now automatically calculating EFP in the chosen units (metric/statute)</p><p>- Fixed lap calculation for structured workouts</p>
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Messer Mirko
June 1, 2023 |
Version 2.5.1
I heard about this app on the evokecast! I like the idea to train with power, currently i'm mainly focused on HR. I have some question regarding the power readings. I ran today which i consider a true base run. Conversational pace and got a Power avg. of 260W. (around 10km, flatish 150hm, 5.0/km on trails). My bike FTP is 275w on your page you mentioned something that the FTP should be similar, or did i get this wrong? Also on the Beta Firmware of my fenix7x, rotation of the values doesn't seem to work, no biggie just wanted to mention this. I i can provide you any information i'm happy to help :)! keep up the great work and tell me where your tip jar is! greetings from switzerland and good luck in your upcoming race! -- mirko
Developer Reply
June 1, 2023,
MarkusHoller
Hi Mirko, thank you for the feedback! While the power values of RunPowerModel should generally be in the same ballpark as for cycling for most runners, they can certainly differ for some. To name two potential causes, being better trained for running as well as a better tendon elasticity than assumed in RunPowerModel can easily skew the results in that direction. As for the rotation mode, please write to me via “Contact Developer”, then we can sort this out. Greetings back from Tyrol, Markus
Travis Murphy
May 17, 2023 |
Version 2.5.1
Love the ability to add weight. I walk with a weight vest on daily and now record that walk to generate a workout with what feels like a very accurate TSS. Thanks!
Valerii Iavtushenko
May 16, 2023 |
Version 2.5.1
WernerMairl
May 11, 2023 |
Version 2.5.1
Hallo Markus Gratuliere! Als Programmierer und Trailrunner kann ich nur sagen: Genau das, was ich bei Garmin vermisst habe, und was ich schon länger als technisch möglich erachtet hatte! Endlich mal eine Messwert, der auch die Vertikale berücksichtigt, das schwächeln ja alle Anbieter quer durch die Bank - naja die breite Masse der Läufer sind halt Flachländer ;-) Ich habe deine Leistungsmessung jetzt ein paar mal verwendet - Strecken mit ca. 1000 Hm am Stück auf 6-8 km Distanz - es passt eigentlich. Besonders toll: es funktioniert auch Bergab! Auf den ersten km hatte ich das (subjektive) Gefühl: sobald die Vertical Pace (egal ob plus oder minus) den Wert von 800 Hm/h signifikant übersteigt, hätte ich "gefühlt" gerne mehr Leistung gesehen. Erst viel später bin ich dann mein erstes Flachstück mit deinen Werten gelaufen (0-2% Steiugng), und schon habe ich meinen "Wunsch" zurückgezogen, da das Verhalten overall wieder konsistent war. Eine Feature-Idee zum evaluieren mit anderen Usern für die Zukunft: Die Einheit der Leistungsmessung (Watt) bzw. die vergleichbarkeit mit dem Radsport, sind mir persönlich nicht so wichtig. Für die Motivation unterwegs wäre aber eine andere (feingliedrigere) Skala manchmal ganz nett. Vielleicht könnte man ein weiteres Datenfeld anbieten mit dem selben Model dahinter, nur dass die Skala nicht in Watt ist sondern in "irgendwas" ist, das sich besser zwischen 0 und 999 (3 Stellen fürs UI) verteilt. Momentan sehe ich hauptsächlich Werte zwischen 100 und 300 und da verändert sich oft "wenig"! Keine Ahnung ob die Messwerte der Sensoren und deren Genauigkeit dahinter feinere Werte überhaupt hergeben. Danke & Liebe Grüße aus Wien Werner Mairl (Trailrunning Vienna)
Developer Reply
May 13, 2023,
MarkusHoller
Hallo Werner, vielen herzlichen Dank für das tolle Feedback! :-) Freut mich sehr dass Du so zufrieden bist. Was Deinen Vorschlag angeht: Was sich da recht gut umsetzen ließe wäre (evtl. alternativ zur Live-Ausgabe des gemittelten Intensity Factors) das Verhältnis von Leistung zu FTP, gerne auf 3 Nachkommastellen genau. Ich setze das mal auf die ToDo-Liste für das nächste Update :-) Wie Du schon vermutest wird oft die tatsächliche Genauigkeit nicht der dargestellten entsprechen, aber trotzdem sind 3 Stellen definitiv besser als nur 2. Danke Dir für die Idee! Liebe Grüße aus Tirol, Markus
Alejandro Figueroa G
May 4, 2023 |
Version 2.5.1
tengo varias preguntas: como hago para que el running score me salga en la actividad que haya cargado en garmin connect? es decir, sale totalmente en blanco y quisiera que en esa pestaña, saliera lo que debe salir la otra pregunta es: existe la manera de visualizar las zonas de potencia en el reloj durante la actividad?
Developer Reply
May 5, 2023,
MarkusHoller
Hola, Running Score solo se calcula cuando RunningDynamics está disponible, es decir, cuando el HRM-Pro/Tri/Run de Garmin o el podómetro están conectados o cuando tienes un nuevo modelo de reloj con cálculo de RunningDynamics integrado. En cuanto a su segunda pregunta, lamentablemente no es posible.
Fabio Busetto
April 15, 2023 |
Version 2.5.0
Installata una prima volta sul mio Garmin fenix 6 pro, non vedevo in tempo reale la potenza di corsa. Disinstallata per provare un'altra app. ma anche quella nuova non funzionava. Tornato a installare questa app. adesso funziona bene e vedo in tempo reale la potenza di corsa. Non do 5 stelle perché mi compare il campo running score vuoto. Chiedo allo sviluppatore come mai?
Developer Reply
April 15, 2023,
MarkusHoller
Grazie per il tuo feedback. Il punteggio di corsa può essere calcolato solo nel caso in cui RunningDynamics sia disponibile, quindi se corri con il pod di Garmin o un HRM-Run/Tri/Pro o utilizzi RunningDynamics integrato sui nuovi Forerunners. In caso contrario, l'app deve assumere un valore predefinito per l'oscillazione verticale (altezza del salto), quindi non ha senso calcolare il RunningScore.
SoCorsu
April 11, 2023 |
Version 2.5.0
Fenix 6 Pro - it works perfectly, thanks ! Power value is available during the activity through Data Fields and detailed information (a lot) are available under Garmin Connect after for analysis.
David Hodgson
March 26, 2023 |
Version 2.5.0
Excellent app, and spooky how close the power readings align with the power/heart rate ratios I get using a cycling trainer. Particularly like the inclusion of TSS in the stats as it enables me to get a rough idea of the total load contributed by different sports activities. One feature I'd love to see implemented: I use a Runn sensor (North pole engineering) on my treadmill. This provides speed and incline data over Ant and Bluetooth. Is there any way you could read the incline data from this sensor (or via their IQ app - https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/apps/6e90be3d-e880-4ece-aa27-3cd169143e3b#0) and incorporate it in your power model calculations? I've left a review on their page suggesting you guys should collaborate :-). Anyway thanks for taking the time to code this and making it available free to the community!
Developer Reply
March 27, 2023,
MarkusHoller
Thanks for the amazing feedback! I agree that it would be nice to have this additional information being taken into account, especially because currently RunPowerModel cannot take into account inclinations on a treadmill. I can't promise to get it working, but I'll definitely have a look and see if I can get in contact with them. Maybe just send me a quick email via "Contact Developer", then I could get back to you for testing purposes in case I manage to get it working.
Ben
March 18, 2023 |
Version 2.5.0
Thank you for making this alternative power data field. I'm mostly happy with the exported data after a run. However, I'm a little confused with the rotation mode display values (v2.50): - Rotation Mode: Power (P) - Rotation Mode: Lap Power - Rotation Mode: NP If I want to display 1) overall running Avg Power, and 2) Instantaneous (current) Power, in Rotation Mode, which of the above two should I select? Thanks.
Developer Reply
March 22, 2023,
MarkusHoller
Thank you for the great feedback! Good catch - I think I removed the possibility to select the average power with some update in exchange for the possibility to show the Equivalent Flat Pace. Unfortunately because of memory restrictions on the watches I have a limit here, and I thought it would make more sense to keep the Normalized instead of the Average Power. I hope using NP instead might be an acceptable alternative for you. Sorry for that!
Karl williamson
February 23, 2023 |
Version 2.5.0
Brian Driscoll
January 27, 2023 |
Version 2.5.0
I noticed, as per reply to comment below, that the results are lower than Garmin calculates, and more in line with cycle power, as you say.
Sergio Balbontin
January 3, 2023 |
Version 2.5.0
Fantastic app! Curious... I have a Forerunner (FR) 945. How different is this app to the recently released wrist only power meter for the newer, e.g., FR 955? Same algorithm? Thanks again in advance!!!!!
Developer Reply
January 3, 2023,
MarkusHoller
Thank you very much! The calculations of RunPowerModel are completely independent to that of Garmin. Furthermore, because of a different philosophy of how to count the different components, the resulting values of RunPowerModel are generally lower - they are rather comparable to the power output you'd get with a power meter on a bicycle.
Manuel
December 9, 2022 |
Version 2.5.0
Only tested once and so far it looks fine, I'll update this review after a few more tries. My vivoactive 3 has a crap barometric altimeter but it does not seem to impact the power calculation negatively. How do you guys get the Strava website to show power? For me it shows only if I set the activity to workout instead of run. Power shows fine in Strava mobile app.
Alexander Browne
November 10, 2022 |
Version 2.5.0
Best power data field I have found. Also exports power metrics to Strava which is nice! Would be interested to hear from the developer about if using a Running Dynamics Pod on FR245 helps with accuracy as the FR245 lacks a barometer?
Developer Reply
November 11, 2022,
MarkusHoller
Thank you for the great feedback! RunPowerModel contains an algorithm to filter out unreasonable short-duration fluctuations of the measured vertical speed. This algorithm should in principle work a bit better when a RunningDynamics device is connected. The actual values used for the calculation of vertical speed on a FR245 are however still purely GPS-based. So the underlying data is the same, but it might be handled a bit better.
Dennis Day
October 15, 2022 |
Version 2.5.0
Very impressive data field and provides reasonable numbers, kudos to the author
Thorsten
September 22, 2022 |
Version 2.4.2
Coming from power based cycling training, the power figures calculated by RunPowerModel are very comparable to cycling. Correlation to heart rate and to perceived effort is very close to cycling. Tested with light trail running and a running dynamics device (Garmin HRM Pro). Thank you for this great app!
Karan Chopra
September 14, 2022 |
Version 2.4.2
Hugo Perrin
August 25, 2022 |
Version 2.4.2
Great app! Very easy to set up, customize and take advantage of. Highly correlated to garmin -new- native power (on forerunner 255 & HRM pro+) with the HUGE advantage of being usable without Running Dynamics. Great feature for those who want more accuracy during races and intense workouts but don't bother wearing a heart belt during basic jogs. Also read the ebook, in my view it is the clearest about running power for those curious to learn a bit more about how it works under the hood and how to integrate it in training.
Ar&Co
August 10, 2022 |
Version 2.4.2
Hello in my F955 solar I can’t see the data field I’m using your GAP but I can’t see Running power, thanks
Marco Lenzen
July 23, 2022 |
Version 2.4.1
Hallo Markus, herzlichen Dank für die tolle RunPower App. Die Wattwerte sind realistisch und genau. Es macht Spaß mit meiner Garmin Epix nach genauen Watt Messwerten zu trainieren und die Ergebnisse kommen auf das Niveau vom Stryd Pod! Ich empfehle die Webseite und App weiter, da ich begeistert von dem Ergebnis bin. Danke für den Mehrwert. Viele Grüße Marco
Tomas Sirusas
July 18, 2022 |
Version 2.4.1
Daniel
July 6, 2022 |
Version 2.4.1
The only one, lacking a pod, with very decent, close-to-reality values. The others give me power values close to my father’s tractor…
Tim Hezemans
June 21, 2022 |
Version 2.4.1
The app works really well, and values match my Stryd closely, which is very impressive! Out of curiousity, should I expect power values to change if my running form improves? I assume these changes are small and difficult to measure?
Developer Reply
June 21, 2022,
MarkusHoller
Thank you very much! In wrist-only mode (without connected RunningDynamics device), changes in the running form are not reflected in the resulting power value. However, if you have a RunningDynamics device connected, the additional data (especially the measured vertical oscillation) leads to a more accurate result which is also partly influenced by the running form. Just write me a PM if you need more information.
Bob Stewart
June 17, 2022 |
Version 2.4.1
The fact this app does it so well and Garmin couldn’t simply put it into any of their watches without an expensive add on is hilarious to me. Thank you for this!
Fabian
June 26, 2021 |
Version 2.3.0
Excellent way of measuring additional parameters to guide your training intensity and efficiency. Especially helpful for trail running, due to the fact that the model takes into account elevation. Very insightful to see these stats and consider them during the runs.