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80/20 Run Zones


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p>For more information and instructions please refer to my website: !!!!</p><p>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</p><p></p><p>Creating this data field was inspired by the "80/20 Training System". The data field gives a visual feedback to the athlete to get brief information about the training zone he/she is currently running at. This helps to plan and train more effectively and you do not have to tinker with the preset training zones of your watch. The zones are labeled as specified by the "80/20 Training System" with "Z1", "Z2", "ZX", "Z3", "Z4", "ZY" and "Z5". You will get a zone reflecting summary after training that shows your times at low and high intensity to verify your training goals and to plan your further training accordingly.</p>

Νέα χαρακτηριστικά

V2.2.1:</p><p>- additional setting for averaging pace data</p><p></p><p>V2.1.1:</p><p>- changed layout for round displays (low/high letters now below time/percentage)</p><p>- added new Garmin devices</p><p></p><p>V2.0.0:</p><p>- added dual data screen (can be activated in Connect App/Garmin Express)</p><p></p><p>V1.9.x:</p><p>- added super small bar display for more information even when using in combination with 3 or more datafields</p>

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Μέση βαθμολογία: (41 βαθμολογίες)

1 Δεκεμβρίου 2021 | Έκδοση 2.2.1

Hi, it stated that you need to replace or remove Connect IQ fields to add another. I have stryd data fields as well. Should I remove the stryd data?

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1 Δεκεμβρίου 2021, EHO-Systems

Hi, no you don't need to remove other datafields. But depending which Garmin watch you have it can be that you can only display 1 or 2 custom datafields in an activity.

Raphael Mallabo
29 Νοεμβρίου 2021 | Έκδοση 2.2.1

Is there a way to know the HR zones in BPM in the settings? Or is it just visible while in an activity?

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29 Νοεμβρίου 2021, EHO-Systems

Hi, my 80/20 app calculates the zones from your lactate threshold during runtime, there is no option to see them when not performing the activity. But you can use the 80/20 zone calculator from the 80/20 endurance website to calculate your zones:

Atul Naik
30 Αυγούστου 2021 | Έκδοση 2.2.1

Perfect for 80/20 training. Thank you.

Jonathan Ore
19 Ιουλίου 2021 | Έκδοση 2.1.1

The app seems great but it looks like there is a significant bug whenever a workout is stopped/paused (in a structured workout). Whenever this happen, the data fields lose all data and state "no data" for the remainder of the workout. If the workout isn't paused this doesn't happen, but it's pretty annoying when you have to and you lose everything.

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19 Ιουλίου 2021, EHO-Systems

Hello, "no data" means there is no power data available. This appears because by toggling Start/Stop button you can switch between Power-Heartrate-Pace. Simply press Start Stop once again (or twice) to switch back to your initial display (Pace/heartrate). This is not a bug, this is exactly how it should work. And you can disable the toggling of metrics in app setting if you don't like it.

Neale Denton
21 Μαΐου 2021 | Έκδοση 2.1.0

If you are following the 80-20 training methodology this app is a great help and better than the native Garmin screens. I really like the fact you can see two metrics on the same screen (I use HR and Pace). Having an optional buzz when you transition from a zone can help you stop from straying too fast or slow in your training. The developer responded to my query very quickly, which was much appreciated. Highly recommended.

13 Μαρτίου 2021 | Έκδοση 2.0.0

Feature request: Please enable to use this data screen with Stryd as a stand alone daya screen (without necessarily having to enable Stryd connect iq app). In the current usage (80/20 + stryd iq) all the connect iq slots are used up and I would very much appreciate to have one slot free for another connect iq app. Thank you for all the good work you do.

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13 Μαρτίου 2021, EHO-Systems

Hello. There is no need to use Stryd app. (There never was!?). Just bind your Stryd as foot pod and power meter and then you're good to go.

Dan Quillin
6 Μαρτίου 2021 | Έκδοση 2.0.0

Downloaded and started using a couple weeks ago, and think we be great for keeping me at the right pace (love the Bike app on my trainer) but wondering if I'm missing a setting somewhere (Fenix 5). On my last interval run, the pace that was showing between a hard zone 3 run and a zone 1 run (almost walking) and back again was almost nothing, and seemed like an average over the entire run time. Tried an experiment and came to a complete stop and the pace showing on my watch did not change for 30 seconds, and then only by a second or two.

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6 Μαρτίου 2021, EHO-Systems

The 80/20 app directly use the speed value it gets from the watch. So when speed/pace is not shown correctly, your watch does not serve the correct value! Using GPS for pacing is the most inaccurate way to go. Especially when using an old and outdated watch. Fenix 5 is well known for having very bad GPS measurement. Fenix 5+ or F6 are better but still not perfect. I'd recommend to get yourself a food pod if you intend to train witch pacing and get the most accurate pacing. Personally I'm using the Stryd V3 which is not cheap but worth every penny. When already using a foot pod, maybe your battery was empty or bluetooth/ANT+ connection was bad, so the watch stopped to send correct speed data to the app.

Bryan Dennie
17 Φεβρουαρίου 2021 | Έκδοση 2.0.0

App works well. However, since I downloaded the training peaks plan the heart rate gauge no longer shows the 80/20 zones and instead shows easy, aerobic, etc... is this a change in the app I need to make or a change somewhere else? I like the gauge because I can easily see it while running. Also, is it possible to give the zone alert based upon 80/20 zones vs the standard heart rate zones?

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17 Φεβρουαρίου 2021, EHO-Systems

Hello, the 80/20 data field has nothing to do with training peaks integration. Check you activity settings maybe you've moved or deleted the 80/20 screen.

Barban Corentin
13 Φεβρουαρίου 2021 | Έκδοση 2.0.0

Hi ! Thank you for your application. I am trying to connect my stryd to the app but I have no data coming into the data field while my other stryd data field is working fine. Is it not possible to connect the stryd with the antID?

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15 Φεβρουαρίου 2021, EHO-Systems

Hello, you must bind Stryd as power meter sensor otherwise it will not work! When your watch does not allow to bind a (bike) power meter you can't use my app with power data, sorry.

22 Ιανουαρίου 2021 | Έκδοση 2.0.0

Thanks should go to you again and again for implementing so many user requests and ideas.

Nitesh Divecha
21 Ιανουαρίου 2021 | Έκδοση 2.0.0

Thanks for the app! Works great and makes it easier to follow the workouts. I don’t know if this is a bug or my setup but my HR stopped reading when I pressed “Start/Stop” button. I had to press “Stop” at traffic light and pressed “Start” but it kept on showing “No data”. But when I went to Garmin screen it showed HR but nothing on 80/20 app. I used chest strap for HR and Garmin D2 Delta. Cheers!

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21 Ιανουαρίου 2021, EHO-Systems

Hello, no, it's not a bug, it's a feature! Please disable the option "Use start/stop to switch metrics". Otherwise the app will toggle between hr, pace and power each time you press Stop/Start.

Ruslan Mulyukov
10 Ιανουαρίου 2021 | Έκδοση 2.0.0

That's amazing! Thank you very much for your quick update and having possibility to show 2 parameters on single screen!

Ruslan Mulyukov
31 Δεκεμβρίου 2020 | Έκδοση 1.8.3

Would be great to have possibility to show 2 zones in time. I mean I want to see both HR and Pace based zones. I need to install Run zones, put pace as an indicator and install HR zones field application to port it as second field on 2-fields screen as a workaround. It duplicate data in report. I could install both HR an Pace zone simplified apps, but pace one is not adapted well for 2 field screen. Can you please either update pace one or add this functionality here. Thank you and Happy New Year!

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7 Ιανουαρίου 2021, EHO-Systems

Hi, thank you for your request. Dual screen was added with v2.0.0!

Edoardo Cittadini
8 Δεκεμβρίου 2020 | Έκδοση 1.8.1

Nice datafield, it would be great if one can see time and percentages spent in zones also in the connect graph on smartphone in the last tab or at least if it is possible to see the percentages in the activity summary where "time low intensity" and "time high intensity" are showed. Thank you.

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4 Ιανουαρίου 2021, EHO-Systems

Hi. Thank you for your request. I will see how to solve this. Infortunately there are not much options to display data with the Garmin platform.

Alan Shrimpton
27 Νοεμβρίου 2020 | Έκδοση 1.7.3

This is a great app. Would be good if you could easy swap between HR and Pace instead of App settings or if you have Pace selected you could see HR zone instead of the percentages in High/Low or vise versa

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4 Ιανουαρίου 2021, EHO-Systems

Hi, added with version 1.8.x! Now you can switch metrics during activity by briefly pressing "Stop/Start" once.

Christof Varga
3 Οκτωβρίου 2020 | Έκδοση 1.7.3

Very Good. But it would be great to add 30sec smoothness for easy or longer runs. Or hilly courses.

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6 Δεκεμβρίου 2020, EHO-Systems

Hi, 30s averaged added with version 1.8.x!

James Nash
29 Σεπτεμβρίου 2020 | Έκδοση 1.7.3

Unsure as to the reasoning behind removing the lap time during a training session. Was very useful to know how far into a Zone 4 sprint you were!! Now I only have the split between high and low zones, which is easy to look at AFTER a run. Please undo this update, or at least give the user the option to have lap times if they choose to. Otherwise it is a brilliant app!!

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29 Σεπτεμβρίου 2020, EHO-Systems

Hello, thank you for your review. The cycling view between lap time and zone summary has been removed for a more transparent layout. Now the datafield only shows 80/20 zone summary. If needed, please simply add laptime as second datafield. I see no reason to display lap time directly inside the 80/20 datafield when there already exists a generic datafield. Putting lap time in the 80/20 datafield makes things much more complicated (more code, more app size, more error prone, less transparency). So I decided to remove it, as there was no real need to put it there. If you overlay the summary with lap time, you will still see the zone summary when activity is paused/finished!

Eric Kahler
21 Αυγούστου 2020 | Έκδοση 1.7.3

Very powerful and much appreciated data field. Easily allows one to monitor, and thus apply, the 80/20 principles while on a run.

7 Αυγούστου 2020 | Έκδοση 1.7.3

You reacted pretty fast, so did I. Thanks for the reverse change.

4 Αυγούστου 2020 | Έκδοση 1.7.2

From a user perspective it was a very bad decision to remove the low and high from activity screen. I think there is much less value in checking actual lap time during a 80/20 training than getting a constant feedback how much time/percentage you spent low and how much high. It is evident that the purpose of a 80/20 training is not to control the lap times, but the times spent in different HR/pace/power zones. Therefore it is not understandable for me at all why one cannot check the actual low and percentages. As a sidenote: I switched off autopause, because any pause during an activity done with the purpose of training often distorts the real peak power (or pace or HR) data over different time spans. So I cannot check low and high at all.

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7 Αυγούστου 2020, EHO-Systems

Hello, fixed this with version 1.7.3 ...

🏃‍♂️🇦🇷 Alejandro Zunino 🇦🇷🏃‍♂️
13 Ιουλίου 2020 | Έκδοση 1.6.3

Es un campo de datos excelente para mejorar los entrenamientos siguiendo las ideas de 80/20. Su uso es muy sencillo y los datos que aporta son muy útiles. Me resulta imprescindible.

5 Ιουλίου 2020 | Έκδοση 1.6.3

Great for following 80/20 zones during a run and for reviewing in Garmin Connect afterwards. A nice addition would be do display a decimal place when using the data field on a screen with other fields (eg on a 4 field layout). Currently it will just read Z2 but I can’t tell where in zone 2 I am. If it said eg: Z2.9 then I would know I am at the top end of that zone.

mark cameron
20 Ιουνίου 2020 | Έκδοση 1.6.3

was great but seems to have stopped working on my 935, screen no longer shows gauge or % in zones, doesn't vibrate as I move through zones, no graphs in the run data?

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29 Ιουνίου 2020, EHO-Systems

Hello. Why not contact me so we could find out together why it is not working?! I must say, I don't see any issues with my app at this point, so there must be wrong on your side...

14 Ιουνίου 2020 | Έκδοση 1.6.3

It's nice to have instant feedback during running and this part of the app works very well. (*****) Nevertheless, the intensity minutes calculations have a bug. Often times they are not not summed up and displayed in garmin connect. Also there's an additional bug with the calculation itself: Although, the tracking of the HRZ during a 3h low intensity run worked, and the graphs are shown in garmin connect, the app calculated 45 min in low and 6 min in high intensity - what happened to the 129 remaining minutes?

Luís Miguel Ferrão
30 Μαΐου 2020 | Έκδοση 1.6.1

Great app for running... One doubt from my side... Where can I switch between imperial and metrical pace in the settings? Thanks

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30 Μαΐου 2020, EHO-Systems

Hello, switching units is done in the system settings. Open the options menu of the watch. Choose "Settings" - "System" - "Units". Change "Pace/Speed" here to kilometres or miles.

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